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Bikes of Britain

Post by Boxer » Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:33 am

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Continuing an occasional series in a look at motorcycling and motorcycles around the globe.

This time the Bikes of Britain.

I’ve been in London for a few days and I’m disappointed so far with what I’ve seen, or more correctly, haven’t seen. From my observations so far, the Poms don’t seem to have much flair or imagination. In London proper it’s mostly scooters and commuters, ie: boring as bat shit.

But here’s an ambo bike seen in the Borough Markets, yes where an outrage occurred not so long ago. But all good today; and a snap of the markets themselves, sorta like Fremantle Markets on steroids.
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Re: Bikes of Britain

Post by Boxer » Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:43 pm

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Bikes on the road in the UK are pretty much like those here in Oz. The main difference is the riders there have a good line in wet weather gear.

Here's the ambulance bike and riders I noticed in the Burrough Markets in London:
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NHS ambulance bike at Burrough Markets London
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NHS ambulance bike riders Burrough Markets London
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Re: Bikes of Britain

Post by BrockaDavis » Sat Oct 06, 2018 4:06 pm

Great idea for first responders where the traffic can delay regular ambulances.

Got hand it to the Brits they use quality machinery. :D
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Re: Bikes of Britain

Post by Boxer » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:08 am

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Brocka,

You might be surprised to learn that on my official, one man, non peer reviewed survey a large number of bikes on the open road in the UK are . . . . . the venerable GS1200 and variant with all the boxy alloy panniers, brackets, lights, guards, knobs and myriad gadgets. Just like yours.
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Another shot of the NHS ambulance bikes.
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A couple of Phillip Island MotoGPs ago I noticed Victorian Firebrigade had an ST1300 on display that was set up in similar fashion.
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Re: Bikes of Britain

Post by Boxer » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:39 am

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We visited the British National Motorcycle Museum at Bickenhill, Solihull. The Museum has on display over 850 bikes and many more in storage. Every one of those 850 or so bikes is restored to museum standard; the quality of workmanship is world class. It’s a real pleasure to see just one bike brought back to life at that standard, but 850 is just amazing. Here’s a sample of the collection
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Museum collection
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Museum collection with innocent bystander in the frame
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There was so much to see but my favourite was the dual rear wheel AJS:
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Dual rear wheel AJS
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Here are two shots of the rear end diff set up:
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Dual rear wheel AJS diff set up 1
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Re: Bikes of Britain

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Dual wheel AJS diff set up 2
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Here's other shots taken in the museum:
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Replica Vincent
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High rise AJS
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AJS V twin 1
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Re: Bikes of Britain

Post by Boxer » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:45 am

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AJS V twin 2
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Post by Boxer » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:51 am

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After leaving Bosworth Field (Richard III, “A horse! a horse! my kingdom for a horse!” and all that) in Leicestershire, we came across the main Triumph factory in Hinckley. The Visitor Experience Centre was (sadly) closed so we strolled along the Triumph walk of honour.
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Triumph factory visitor centre Hinkley
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The avenue of heroes has a series of inlaid with pavers that briefly extol the contribution of various individuals who Triumph admire for their noble qualities and contribution to Triumph. Here are some examples:
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siegfried bettman
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1902 Siegfried Bettman
Triumph’s founder a driven German entrepreneur who kickstarted the UK’s motorcycle and car industry taking Triumph from British pioneer to global Success
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mauritz schultze
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1902 Mauritz Schultze
Triumph’s original Chief Engineer and designer of the company’s first ever motorbike, Schultze laid the foundations for the firm’s future growth.
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marlon brando
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1953 Marlon Brando
American icon and one of cinema’s most enduring stars, he rode his own Thunderbird 6T in the Wild One, the movie that defined the image of the biker.
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Re: Bikes of Britain

Post by Boxer » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:56 am

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mike hailwood
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1958 Mike Hailwood
Nine times World Champion and fourteen times TT winner, Hailwood won the first ever Thruxton 500 mile race on the prototype for the iconic Bonneville ‘Thruxton’.
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steve mcqueen
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1963 Steve McQueen
The King of Cool and passionate Triumph fan, famous for one of the most iconic scenes in cinematic history, riding a fence jumping TR6/A in the classic war movie The Great Escape.
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This from Wikipedia:
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"The motorcycle chase scenes with the barbed wire fences were shot on meadows outside Füssen, and the "barbed wire" that Hilts crashes into before being recaptured was simulated by strips of rubber tied around barbless wire, constructed by the cast and crew in their spare time.[30] The final jump scene was performed by stuntman Bud Ekins in place of Steve McQueen. Other parts of the chase were done by McQueen, playing both Hilts and the soldiers chasing him, because of his ability on a motorcycle.[31] The motorcycle was a Triumph TR6 Trophy which was painted to look like a German machine. The restored machine is currently on display at Triumph's factory at Hinckley, UK.[32]"
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Triumph don't actually say McQueen himself did the jump but . . . .
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Re: Bikes of Britain

Post by Boxer » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:21 am

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Not all motorcycling is shight and briny.

Seen near King Arthur’s castle at Tintagel in the UK. I guess the King had no need for his Moto Guzzi motorcycle anymore.

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The King's Guzzi 1
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The King's Guzzi 3
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The King;s Guzzi 4
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Re: Bikes of Britain

Post by BillWest » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:00 pm

Tyres still look good.
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Post by KURODORI » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:16 pm

He prob'ly left it out overnight, a week or so ago. Methinks Tintagel is by the sea ...
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Re: Bikes of Britain

Post by GlennR » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:12 pm

Boxer,

Thanks for sharing the UK bike pics. Are the bikes in the Solihull museum restored to running or just display condition? If running, who rides them all?

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Re: Bikes of Britain

Post by Boxer » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:40 am

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Glenn,

No problem.

The museum had a fire in 2005 that destroyed many bikes and now appears to have a very good smoke detection system with heat activated sprinklers. When in the hall, I didn’t notice the smell of fuel, so I suppose the bikes on display aren’t fuelled ready to go. Tony (a vintage bike enthusiast) mentioned the bikes are ridden from time to time by volunteers and occasionally there is an auction of some of the bikes. Other than that, it seems the bikes remain on display for all who visit to marvel over. You’ll notice from the photos that quite a few bikes have actively used drip trays, so it seems they have oil in the sumps which suggests running order condition. Having said that, not many bikes have cobalt blue headers.

On another point, British riders (and there are a lot of them) are a hardy lot. Narrow, heavily trafficked winding roads more often than not awash with rain, painted with zero friction road lines and largish steel manhole plates all make for interesting riding conditions. Capped off with 10C or less ambient air temperature and drivers universally indifferent to motorbikes, all makes for exciting bike riding. Here’s a sample taken at the Commando Memorial at Lochaber near Spean Bridge in the central Scottish highlands. These two are from Devon, just out for a “tour.”
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Devon riders
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And here's a sample of bikes in the car park at the Housesteads Roman Fort:
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Housesteads roman riders
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On a more general matter, after driving four and a half thousand kilometres around the UK I think the Brits are way better drivers than Aussies. Even if only for one simple reason and that is they keep to the left. However, they are outrageous speeders, especially in the fast (inside right) lane and they don’t use indicators much; I’m not sure how bike riders feel about that. We met a chap in Bath who claims police will tolerate up to 10% over the limit. If true, that means the open road speed limit of 70MPH (113KPH) becomes approx 80MPH (130KPH) and then they add on after that, so some appear to get up to and over 90MPH (145KPH).

And finally, here’s a snap taken (early in the morning before opening) in Morpeth of a trike outside a bike workshop/dealership that is also a bike café. That seemd like a good idea to me.
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Morpeth cafe trike
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That's it for this installment of the Bikes of Britain.

Stay tuned for a survey of bikes from the next exotic location.

Hmm: Russia?, Cuba?



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Re: Bikes of Britain

Post by GlennR » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:25 pm

Thanks for the additional info Boxer.

The Brits learn to tolerate weather and just get on with it. Enthusiasm for weather affected adventure activities like riding, skydiving and scuba diving seems inappropriately high given local conditions. Lots of sitting around drinking tea waiting for the weather to improve.

I'm going to the UK next May and look forward to visiting the Museum in Solihull, and maybe go to the TT.

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